Episode 40: Why Every Homebuyer Needs a Trusted Inspection Before They Invest

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Nate Carver
You're walking through a home, you think you love it, you want to make an offer on it and your offer gets accepted. And then you notice something doesn't seem quite right. What do you do? Hey, I'm Nate Carver, your favorite mortgage guy. And today we're talking to Jim Henderson and his wife, Jodie Foster, with the Henderson home inspections out of Anna, Texas.

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Nate Carver
And we're going to ask them a whole bunch of questions and help, help demystify the home inspection and why you definitely want one.

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Nate Carver
Hey, I'm Nate Carver and welcome to Between Two Doors.

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Nate Carver
Hey, Jim. And hey, Judy, how are y'all doing today.

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Jim Henderson
And how are you doing today? Thank you for having us.

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Nate Carver
I'm good, I'm good. I'm looking forward to going, jumping into this with y'all as, as, as a mortgage lender, we've always got to have a home inspection, but I'm never the one that sets that up. So, this is an opportunity for me to learn. Also, what realtors are doing and what y'all do specifically to help homebuyers and homeowners, identify things in their, in that property that may need to be addressed.

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Nate Carver
So. Well, let's let's jump right into it. Tell me. Tell me about yourselves. Any special events going on in the near future? And then I'd love to know how y'all got into the home inspection. Business.

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Jim Henderson
Well, I got into home inspection because I've been in construction just about all my life. My late 70s, my dad, my brother were building homes. I kind of got into it there, you know, with the big boys. So they. Well, when I went back to the oil field, moved up to Dallas and just kind of went into different things, apartment maintenance, put myself through an Hvac school.

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Jim Henderson
Worked in sales, taught for Job Corps for 16 years for building construction technology. And, then one day, it was the the political side of job coaches getting to me. And so I just said, you know, it's time to find something else. And my wife said, why don't you go looking at home inspections? Because I'll let her tell you a story about when we moved in our house.

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Jim Henderson
This is really what got us in the home inspection.

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Jodie Foster
Well, we had our inspection done. And then after we finished, we wrote the inspector a check and went through everything he was doing. And as we were leaving, I looked at him and I said, you could do this. This is like everything you know and everything you do. And he just looked at me and I could just see this light bulb going on in his brain.

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Jodie Foster
And so he immediately, I mean, immediately, as soon as we got moved in and settled, started looking at the classes and the licensing qualifications, we had a little bit of an inheritance that we received. So when he left Job Corps, we were able to start our business on a good footing. And, he's just kind of built from there.

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Jodie Foster
And we've been in business almost 13 years now, nearly 30.

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Nate Carver
Years.

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Jodie Foster
Here. He's done about over 2500 inspections by now. And, we serve north central Texas. So you take an underground 60 mile radius around. And and that's where we go.

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Nate Carver
Nice. So in the past you've won a lot of different hats. You weren't through with OSHA and with Job Corps and going through the home buying experience. The light came on and you saw an opportunity that you knew you could really, really make an impact on, or in, when what you how long ago was that?

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Jim Henderson
13. That 13 years ago now.

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Nate Carver
13 years on nice. 13 years. So for homeowners, I'm curious what kind of, what things do you do you see that really stand out there? Kind of typical in the area that you service that you see quite often that might be able to be mitigated prior to a home inspector coming up to that property.

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Jim Henderson
Everything is so advanced now. I mean, everything's each house is different. Everybody thinks it. You know, when you go into a home inspection, it says everything's the same. Now. Each house is different. One of the, you know, biggest things, you know, is a lot of people have the, sense of, I have a brand new home, so I don't need an inspection.

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Jim Henderson
Well, now, that's not true. You know, builders and build. I work very closely with a lot of builders. And the problem is, when these builders have so many houses, they're trying to watch over, the quality control sometimes slips by. And so I just tell them I'm just a second set of eyes for them, that we we're all taking care of our same customer.

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Jim Henderson
So I see things like little things like maybe the water orientations of the sinks or backwards, you know, hops on the left or right or, you know, are they forgot to I did one, one time where they forgot to hook the drain up under a tab, and we flooded the top of, upstairs. But, you know, not too bad.

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Jim Henderson
But, you know, it's better to find it there than when people move in, little things, you know, electrical plugs are not hooked up. Gas fans are not hooked up in the attic going all the way out. So they're, you know, venting, carbon monoxide into the attic.

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Jim Henderson
I saw one one time where I went into a dry, laundry room, and I started looking for the dryer vent. I couldn't find it. Right. Just sheet rock. Right over.

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Nate Carver
Oh, no, it.

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Jim Henderson
Found out it was there. But, you know, and it's these little things that, you know, you want to find for your your fire, for my customers before they move in. Because I tell them I want them to be happy when they move in. Yeah. I don't want to have all these contractors coming in after it's over with, you know, after they're trying to get settled in, then they have to uproot themselves again and have contractors in.

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Jim Henderson
Right? So each home is different. There's, you know, the minute you think you've seen everything, you go, whoops, there's another one. That's one for the books.

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Nate Carver
Hey, is there something that stands out that you've seen that was like the biggest red flag or, you know, the the thing you come on, you're like, Jerry, you won't believe what I saw today. I mean, it's just like.

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Jodie Foster
Vaguely that's that's a daily, daily thing. He comes in, I would say the, the ones that stand out in my mind because I hear the stories when he gets home. Is they brand new house? I was, you know, $750,000. The brick was falling off the exterior of the house and the windows, same house. The windows were installed backwards so you couldn't open them unless you were standing outside the house.

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Jim Henderson
So I was I was with my client, and he said you couldn't run backwards. I just walked out. I don't think the locks are supposed to be here, sir. And they were. They were installed backwards.

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Jodie Foster
Yeah.

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Jim Henderson
The brick ties weren't down to the brick was already falling off. And they, you know, they haven't even finished yet.

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Nate Carver
Yeah, well, you know, as a burglar, you could just on your way out of the windows and you just got to.

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Jim Henderson
Keep the access.

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Nate Carver
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Jim Henderson
And that's just something that, you know, the it's just, it's an oversight, you know, but you know, you want to catch that for, you know, before you move in.

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Jodie Foster
Yeah.

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Nate Carver
So the inspection doesn't terminate a contract. You know, you know, homeowners or buyers, they find a house. They love the inspections designed to protect them and the sellers, for that matter. But it's not the end. It's not the end of a contract. If the windows are installed backwards, it's an opportunity for the owners to correct it or come back and renegotiate the purchase contract.

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Nate Carver
Right. And so that you're not having to deal with the mess after the fact when you've moved in. Right? You got kids and you got boxes to unbox and curtains to hang and find out your windows are backwards. Yeah, well.

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Jim Henderson
I just try to tell everybody, I, I do a home as if I'm going to try to buy it. And so.

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Nate Carver
Yeah.

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Jim Henderson
If this concern in me is going to concern my client, and what I want to do is I want a lot of people think that a home inspection is a pass or fail. Inspection is not. I just tell my clients what I do is I give them all the information I can, can make a fully good judgment decision.

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Jim Henderson
If they want to go further with this transaction. That way they don't get caught with these, you know, how do you do these, right? You know, when they move and go, oh, how did this happen? You know what happened here? You know, we try to catch those and we you know, I never say we can't. We're going to see everything in a home.

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Jim Henderson
When inspectors say they were going to catch everything, I don't blame. We're looking for those big problems. You know, any little problems, especially those big problems, is going to uproot your life. What you move in our right college, you lost money.

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Nate Carver
Now you've got experience, in history with Hvac. Yes. So, how how has that played into your home inspection? I, I would think personally, I would think that would set you above way above other, other home inspectors.

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Jim Henderson
There's not a lot it does. It does help a lot in the, understanding of the system and how it works. Especially explaining to the, client if there is a problem, you know, you'd be able to explain to them this is something it really needs to be adjusted now or, you know, is it something that, you know, it's not really that bad, but, fortunately, Texas real estate track has a lot of guidelines.

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Jim Henderson
So a lot of things that as inspectors, what we do is visually. So everything we do is visual temperature and just you're looking at it, they don't let us, you know, put gauges on the systems and things like that. But when we do our temperatures across the coils, you know, we know about, we can get 98%, 99% sure if that system is working correctly.

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Nate Carver
Right. Nice.

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Jodie Foster
And I can tell you, Jim is very. Particular about HVAD systems because he's, you know, got so much experience in it to where when we put in our new system last year, he took off work so he could supervise the company and the installers to make sure everything was exactly the way he wanted it.

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Nate Carver
Nice. You know, the best AC in the in the whole city. I'm sure.

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Jodie Foster
And so probably.

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Nate Carver
You mention track. You've got some awards machinations from from from the Texas real estate associations. Tell me a little bit about that.

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Jim Henderson
This one, where the.

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Jodie Foster
Well, you were Collin County most.

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Jim Henderson
Oh, it wasn't Collin County. I'd say two years after I or we started our business, I was elected as the chairman of the Collin County Inspectors Committee. And so, you know, that was, a two year run right there. And we had inspectors meetings, you know, once a month. And so I was over charge of, running the inspections, helping with training other inspectors, did a lot of, talking with the realtors, you know, education, things like that.

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Jim Henderson
That was a lot of fun. And I think that really helped me, set me up for continuing in my business, because it gave me a lot more in and a lot more confidence.

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Jodie Foster
Tell me what you do not was true.

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Jim Henderson
Now, what I do now is, I'm, I was newly elected as the educational director for the South chapter two CPA, which is called the Texas Professional Real Estate Inspectors Association. Just another professional organization. I do I'm the educational director, so I set up the training classes once a month, and we have anywhere between 15, 15 to 2025 inspectors each month.

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Jim Henderson
And it's it's a lot of fun because we sit there and once I do the class, we, bounce a lot of questions and ideas off each other. And one of the biggest things I like about that, Eric, is that situation is I'm going to, steal a pun from one of my fellow inspectors is we always say we're not competitors, we're colleagues.

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Jim Henderson
So we all work with each other.

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Jodie Foster
Something I want to insert here was I think one of the things that really set Jim apart is he spent 16 years teaching construction technology to disadvantaged kids at John Point in McKinney. And I was a realtor, Keller Williams, for 12 years in McKinney. And so when I was a realtor, I tried to talk him into becoming a realtor as well.

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Jodie Foster
And he did get his license as a realtor, just didn't have the motivation to go that route. So he kind of stepped back. But he got that education, and was licensed as a realtor. So it kind of gives him a little extra insight as to what buyers and sellers are looking for and wanting and expecting it. Also, he has the personality and the experience and the knowledge that he really enjoys talking to people when he finishes their inspection.

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Jodie Foster
What we do normally is we do this correction for a certain period of time, and then he spends at least an hour going over his verbal findings with the client, explaining things to him, answering questions, walking through the house. And he explains it in a way that is very simple for them, and doesn't use a lot of high volume phrases and tries to get them to understand the functioning of their house and how it should function.

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Jodie Foster
And he really enjoys educating people about that. And he really likes working with first time buyers.

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Jim Henderson
Everybody, first time homebuyers. I love the first time homebuyers.

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Nate Carver
Yeah.

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Jim Henderson
It's, I get to bring my teaching back out.

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Nate Carver
Right? I same same it's, It's exciting. Speaking of first time homebuyers, can you walk us through. Because they're not going to know. Most people don't know. It's not their their expertise. Walk us through the process. So they they just signed a contract with the real estate agent. They're about to buy a home that takes about 30 days plus or minus.

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Nate Carver
The part that triggers you, getting involved in their home purchasing process. What does that look like? What would explain that to a first time home buyer?

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Jim Henderson
Let me run that. As I say, a two part, a two part question.

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Nate Carver
Okay.

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Jim Henderson
Joining a home, the business again, I rely on her as my partner very heavily. So most of the time I'm out in the field. So on the phone when I'm in the field, very rarely do I have to my phone, you know, roll over to Joey. So when a phone calls to her, this is the first step of the home, back and home inspection process.

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Jodie Foster
I I'm on the, basically what happens is when a contract is executed, that means all parties signed and dated. The option period starts, the option period start at midnight the day of signing. So if you have a seven day option period, you start counting the next day. Okay. The first thing you want to do that first day is find a home inspector.

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Jodie Foster
If you don't call us, call somebody. Get that home inspected because you're looking at what is probably the largest investment of your life. It only makes sense that you'd want to have somebody looked at it, who has the expertise to tell you if you have any red flags with that purchase. And so what we do, as soon as you call us, we set up the appointment.

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Jodie Foster
We have a little bit of paperwork. We do. We schedule it as soon as possible because you want to have that done as soon as possible. Within your option period. In case there are issues that come up, you have time to get that to the realtor. And we do send the report to the realtor or the builder, as well as the client, and you can go over that.

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Jodie Foster
And if there's any issues, you can negotiate that or get them repaired, or do whatever your realtor thinks and you think is the best option for you. And then once that scared, that's done, if you have any questions, you can call Jim again. But that that first day after you sign the contract and it is executed, that is an important day.

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Jodie Foster
Find your inspector, get them on that inspection, get it scheduled. Will you notify the seller to let them know that there's going to be an inspection on that house? We have to have all the utilities on. If it's occupied, the occupants and the owners need to know what we're going to be doing when we're going to be there.

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Jodie Foster
The animals have to be put up safely so they don't escape or harm the inspector or the buyers when they show up. So there's a lot of little components. I take care of that part of it. Jim does the hard work when he goes out. Does the actual inspection.

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Jim Henderson
Say, I think that's backwards. I think she does the hard work. Not easy. But but then after she gets that, we have the home, scheduled, then I go and depending on the home, I spend a, my minimum is a three hour inspection on any house. I've set a minimum of three hours. Now, that's anything generally under around 3000ft².

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Jim Henderson
Anything larger than that? I'm gonna put in some more time just because I need more time to look at it. But it's a three hour, say, a normal inspection under 3000 square foot would be a three for a three hour inspection of the home itself to include all the exterior sprinklers, attic roof, all the interior. I run the sprinklers, I check garage doors.

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Jim Henderson
I check every door draw, electrical plug, window socket. You, you know, run all your appliances. So it's pretty thorough. You know, I try to look at everything. I tell everybody that's, you know, once I get inside the house, I just get nosy. I just look at everything. I want to make sure it works and we'll make sure it's functioning correctly.

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Jim Henderson
It's working smoothly. And then, like I said on that last hour, then we give the inspection over to the, Well, I do a verbal inspection, oversee with my clients on my tablet, and if there's any questions, we'll walk them over and show them right there. On my record. My reports are sent out that night. You will get all the reports or get sent to you by opening no later than opening a business the next day.

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Jodie Foster
As long as there's no catastrophic internet issues, which we have had occasion.

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Jim Henderson
I have had I had I have had to go to, Spring Creek Barbecue and sit there and do a.

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Nate Carver
Record book. Oh, but, awful place to have to sit. And, you know.

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Jim Henderson
Yeah.

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Jodie Foster
I feel sorry for,

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Jim Henderson
But, you know, the biggest thing is when you do have when you do a home, it is one large it's going to probably be the biggest investment you'll ever make your life, you know, don't don't cheap out about the home inspection is is not worth it. It is for your safety. It's for your benefit. It's for your peace of mind.

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Jim Henderson
Yeah. You know, hopefully we will not find anything but you never know. We found some crazy stuff.

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Nate Carver
Now you service in work in the hot, the hottest market in Texas, Collin County, surrounding areas. It is it is the high demand area to be moving to. It's been that way for a good while. Are you seeing any trends? From the home inspector side.

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Jim Henderson
I'm seeing a lot of the homes that a lot of homes are stepping up their game state website, so to speak. Maybe some of the smaller and builders at one time are now upping their game to include. Better items or more updated items. I'm seeing better upgrades. I'm seeing a lot more, blown foam now. A lot of laundry going to the attic.

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Jim Henderson
Foam. I'm seeing a lot of homes going to, upgraded. You know, of course, codes and all have changed. All the electrical systems are being upgraded now. You know, I'm seeing a lot more, sounds systems in homes, you know, smart homes. So you're seeing it is taken up by step in their game because, like you said, it is, is a hot market.

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Jim Henderson
There's competition out there, and they're having to step up.

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Nate Carver
Yeah. They are, are you when you finish your home inspection, are you doing any kind of coaching with realtors on what to do with that home inspection in case there's issues? Do you walk the realtors through that and options for them because they have to ostensibly go back to the buyers and the listing agent and, and hopefully cobble together a new, a new contract or some negotiation opportunities there.

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Jim Henderson
Many times the realtors are there with my home buyers. So I go to the report with both, okay. And even if they're not, I always tell them even when I talk to them individually or on the phone, if they have any questions, just please call me. You know, I will walk them through it. I can't tell them what to do or how to do it, but I can say, you know, I, I recommend that this be down or this be looked at, but it's really nice when I rehab the client and the agent there also because I can answer all questions right there and, you know, agents.

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Jim Henderson
They have their own. They have a whole different set of skills. And they do things that I don't have to do. And so a lot of times I'm answer quick, you know, I'll tell them this. And they say, you know, I didn't know that. When did that happen. When did that happen? Like two years ago. And so that's why we try to keep, you know, everybody updated because everything has changed so much.

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Jim Henderson
Not everybody stand up to date. The new, the new electrical code where you can't put electrical sockets inside kitchen islands anymore. Yeah. They can't be on the sides of Kitchen Island. They have to be up on top. We have to be pop-ups.

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Nate Carver
Wow.

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Jim Henderson
And, you know, back and forth every day. Yeah. And starting in 2020, you have to have a, an emergency disconnect on the outside of the house. You know, all power to the house. So there's all these little different things is happening.

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Nate Carver
So do you do you go ahead.

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Jodie Foster
I wanted to just answer it right here. I would say easily 35 to 40% of our business is realtor referral.

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Nate Carver
And.

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Jodie Foster
Easily realtor referral. We worked with, you know.

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Nate Carver
Ups.

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Jodie Foster
Thousands of realtors at this point. And, you know, they refer people to us because they're comfortable with us. They know that we're going to be thorough and do a good job. We're going to explain things to them. But the other thing that we do is we offer a discount. When a realtor refers a client to us, we give them, if they tell us this realtor referred me, we just give them a discount for that realtor referral to help, you know, encourage the realtor to use us.

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Jodie Foster
So it's a little bit of, you know, icing on the cake.

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Jim Henderson
Not only for them, you know, use us, but it also gives that home buyer a little bit extra money in their pocket, you know, put on their clothing or put on something else. Yeah. You know, give them a little extra money somewhere.

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Nate Carver
Right. And you're so you the plug on the island that's new to me. So tell me, are all the, all your licensing is it how often is that renewed? And then how about these changes like that, that how is that disseminated to home inspectors for y'all to stay on? Well, on.

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Jim Henderson
We get relapses every two years, okay? And every two years we have to go back and have or we have to have 20, 28 hours. I think the trick continual education. That's good. After a year and then I have to reapply for my license. Get that. But we go the next part of that that is, also with with trivia, with Texas pressure real estate, which is also called internationally.

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Jim Henderson
I'm a member of that. That's another 32 hours of, training that I do each year. On top of trick. So right now I'm, I'm close to pushing close to 1000 hours of training so far. What are more but a lot of things is that people I have to understand that a a home inspector is not a code enforcer.

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Jim Henderson
We're not code inspectors. Now, we read a lot of code. We know a lot of code, but unfortunately, it's what I tell my clients when I go to a home. I don't know exactly what code that house was being built under at that time. And that's and that city, town or municipality, because they have anywhere between 3 to 4 years to catch up with code.

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Nate Carver
Right. The city.

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Jodie Foster
Is the one that sets.

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Jim Henderson
The city sets it. Yeah. So just like the new the New Orleans electrical plug that came out from the National Electrical Code and 2023.

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Nate Carver
Wow.

00:26:54:19 - 00:27:13:02
Jim Henderson
So some some cities are just now putting those in. Some are still running 18 in that team code. And so they're not running it. What that means and what that means is if you think of a kitchen island that kids cannot have, you know, I you, you see a plug on the end of it on the front of it.

00:27:13:04 - 00:27:30:08
Jim Henderson
And lot of times thinking of this, what reason I don't want to do it is you have a hot plate or a crock pot sitting up on your kitchen counter. Well, the plug runs down side into side. A child or dog runs through their kitchen. It pulls everything off. Is dangerous at first. That's why they're getting rid of.

00:27:30:10 - 00:27:32:00
Nate Carver
Yeah, yeah. Let me let.

00:27:32:00 - 00:27:49:17
Jodie Foster
Me let me ask you a question that'll help. I think a lot because we get this question so much. Okay. Something that is a code. Now when you goes into a house, an older home, an inspection, it may not be up to current code.

00:27:49:19 - 00:27:52:15
Jim Henderson
It may end up your current building standards.

00:27:52:17 - 00:28:15:13
Jodie Foster
Building standards. Okay. Jim is required to remark on his report. This is not up to current building standards. It doesn't mean, like he says, that it's a pass fail. It just means it's not what it. If it was a brand new room, what it would be and what is required for a brand new home, right? Doesn't mean it has to be replaced.

00:28:15:15 - 00:28:27:06
Jodie Foster
Now, if something goes wrong with it and it has to be repaired, that's the point at which it would have to be updated to. All right, building standards.

00:28:28:01 - 00:28:30:00
Jodie Foster
And that's sometimes.

00:28:30:05 - 00:28:34:02
Nate Carver
That's, a key point. To highlight.

00:28:34:04 - 00:28:57:08
Jim Henderson
You know, I go into a lot of homes and, you know, a lot of the plugs are not ground fault. Circuit interrupt. Sure. Yeah. And so I'll say, you know, I'll put it in red because I run three colors on my reports. I run white, yellow and red. White is just an informational. Yellow is a recommendation of something I want to have I would like to see.

00:28:57:10 - 00:29:16:13
Jim Henderson
And red is what I call a life safety. Health can be a ground fault. Is life safety. Health because it's a shock at. Yeah. So I'll put it in red and I'll say, you know it's not it wasn't code back then. If you if I moved in what I would do, I would highly recommend you change this to a ground fault for your safety.

00:29:16:15 - 00:29:26:06
Jim Henderson
Yeah. And if they have to they do it or not. That's fine. But I give them a lot of recommendations that this is what I would recommend as of today, for your safety.

00:29:26:08 - 00:29:51:11
Nate Carver
That's fantastic. All right. Let's, let's shift gears a little bit from from home inspections. Tell me, what do y'all do outside of the home inspection world? And, just to I just be curious what you love doing outside, what your hobbies are, what you love doing outside, of working your your own business?

00:29:51:13 - 00:29:54:19
Jim Henderson
Not for the last ten years. Nothing.

00:29:54:21 - 00:29:55:00
Jodie Foster
We've.

00:29:55:00 - 00:29:56:00
Jim Henderson
Been we've been building the.

00:29:56:00 - 00:30:12:23
Jodie Foster
Business. Yeah, we've been building a lot of time and effort. I had a little health issue a couple of years ago that took a lot of time and effort, but I'm on the other side of it now, and everything is good. And I got my energy back, which is good, man. Here's how you do this. Gets longer and longer.

00:30:13:00 - 00:30:34:05
Jodie Foster
Because I'm now up and about and adding to it all the time. Couple of years ago, Jim is a workaholic, just flat out he's a workaholic. My dad didn't retire until he was 89. I have a feeling Jim's going to be the same way. He just. He loves what he does. So it's not like work to him.

00:30:34:05 - 00:31:02:08
Jodie Foster
He loves going out and meeting people and looking at houses and, you know, finding stuff that's just. He enjoys it. Sure. He does an a couple of years ago, I looked and I said, you've got to get a hobby. You need to do something other than work. All you do is work. Well, last year at the end of the year, our pastor was talking in church one day about this organization used to go on to sleep in heavenly bodies.

00:31:02:10 - 00:31:29:08
Jodie Foster
We build beds for kids that don't have beds to sleep on. And he said, would anybody be interested in starting a chapter? And Jim's hand shot up, this is all dolled up. Tell me what you need, you know. And so, they said, would you want to be president? He said, sure. So that's what we've been doing. And it's become kind of a passion project for us, a mission.

00:31:29:10 - 00:31:35:11
Jodie Foster
We started our chapter in December of last year. We went public in April.

00:31:36:23 - 00:31:47:09
Jodie Foster
But we did start our chapter in 20. And you know, that's what he said.

00:31:47:11 - 00:32:07:02
Jodie Foster
So anyway we started it. In April for public applications. As soon as we started we had 130 applications for beds. So it's an issue. It's kind of a hidden issue. Yeah. You know we're trying to address it and get kids their own beds here. Not very.

00:32:07:04 - 00:32:14:19
Nate Carver
Nice. We're going to set up a time to talk about that and do well. Let's do a dedicated podcast. The.

00:32:14:19 - 00:32:16:07
Jim Henderson
Other thing is we finish.

00:32:16:09 - 00:32:33:07
Nate Carver
With anything. Yeah. Look, I, I'm on a mission, and Crosby have avoided me, and I've never caught a crappie. I've caught everything else that I know of that I've wanted to catch, but not crappie. So I'm on a crappie mission this year, so.

00:32:33:13 - 00:32:35:03
Jodie Foster
I like the sand bass.

00:32:35:05 - 00:32:35:23
Jim Henderson
We do sand.

00:32:35:23 - 00:32:37:23
Jodie Foster
Bass. Where do you mess up?

00:32:38:02 - 00:32:40:17
Nate Carver
Do y'all go up to Lake Texoma? Where do you like to go?

00:32:40:19 - 00:32:45:14
Jim Henderson
Hey, tell me. Warning. Yeah. I really love gardening.

00:32:45:16 - 00:32:46:00
Jodie Foster
Yeah.

00:32:46:03 - 00:32:47:12
Nate Carver
I mean.

00:32:47:14 - 00:32:50:05
Jim Henderson
I grew up on these and I'm like.

00:32:50:11 - 00:32:54:04
Jodie Foster
Yeah, ask me anything. Either stay this year nice.

00:32:54:06 - 00:33:02:11
Nate Carver
And, we're we're almost running out of time. Y'all got a special date coming up?

00:33:02:13 - 00:33:07:21
Jim Henderson
We do, marking, July 4th of this year, we'll be celebrating 30.

00:33:07:21 - 00:33:08:06
Jodie Foster
Three.

00:33:08:08 - 00:33:13:03
Jim Henderson
Three years, 33, 33 years. Matrimony.

00:33:13:08 - 00:33:13:24
Nate Carver
Yeah, we've.

00:33:13:24 - 00:33:22:04
Jodie Foster
Been together 35. But this is a 33 yard. We got married on the 4th of July, so we get fireworks every year for our anniversary.

00:33:22:05 - 00:33:23:09
Nate Carver
I just.

00:33:23:11 - 00:33:24:22
Jodie Foster
Yeah.

00:33:24:24 - 00:33:30:10
Nate Carver
That's awesome. That's anywhere you go in the US. Everybody celebrating your wedding.

00:33:30:10 - 00:33:32:14
Jim Henderson
And my celebrate our anniversary.

00:33:32:16 - 00:33:33:18
Nate Carver
I love it, everybody.

00:33:33:18 - 00:33:34:17
Jim Henderson
Thank you.

00:33:34:19 - 00:33:45:09
Nate Carver
Yeah. So, hey, tell us, tell us how, if somebody needs your inspection services, how can they best get Ahold of you?

00:33:45:11 - 00:33:45:20
Jodie Foster
Right.

00:33:45:22 - 00:33:49:06
Jim Henderson
Well, well, we have two ways getting hold of.

00:33:49:08 - 00:34:08:12
Jodie Foster
The phone number that when he's out and on roofs and under houses and doing what he does, if you call his phone number, it rolls over to mine. If I'm out one of my meetings during the things that I do in the community, if my phone rings and I can't answer, it rolls over to him. So we always answer the phone.

00:34:08:14 - 00:34:35:01
Jodie Foster
His number is (214) 843-4003. Mine is (214) 762-2607. Or you can email us and we get a notification when we get an email. And it's, Henderson in-home inspection. Just a single inspection at gmail.com. We also have a website Henderson Home inspection.com. And you can go there and fill out a contact me form and you can get Ahold of us.

00:34:35:01 - 00:34:38:23
Jodie Foster
So there's quite a few ways you can get Ahold of us.

00:34:39:00 - 00:35:10:22
Nate Carver
All right. We'll put I'll put the links down below or wherever you're finding this podcast, to get Ahold of y'all. Jim. Jody, thank you very, very much, for meeting with me today. I look forward to seeing y'all again. And, talking further about the charity organization that y'all are, hosting. Folks, if you need a home inspection, I encourage you to reach out to Jim Henderson and Jody and, and talk to them.

00:35:10:24 - 00:35:25:19
Nate Carver
And as always, if you are looking to buy, sell or refinance and need to speak to a lender, please reach out to me at Lake carver.com and we'll see you again on the next, podcast of Between Two Doors.

00:35:25:20 - 00:35:28:20
Jodie Foster
Thank you so much for.

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