Episode 61: Rethink Everything: How Realtors Win with Video & Relationships | Kyle Draper

In this episode of Between Two Doors, Kyle Draper challenges the way entrepreneurs think about their time, making a bold case that many business owners are stuck acting as their own assistants instead of true leaders. He breaks down the mindset shift required to step out of day-to-day operations and into a role focused on growth, vision, and high-impact decisions. Through his work with Hire Culture Virtual Assistants, Kyle shares how strategic delegation isn’t just a luxury—it’s a necessity for anyone serious about scaling.
The conversation goes deeper into how leaders can pair delegation with authentic communication, particularly through video and social media. Kyle emphasizes that growth doesn’t come from chasing cold leads, but from nurturing real relationships and showing up consistently with clarity and confidence. Listeners will walk away with a renewed perspective on leverage, along with practical strategies to reclaim their time and build a business that works for them—not because of them.
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If you wondered where
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branding and relationship
based business intersect
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with real estate and home buyers,
I've got a special guest for you today.
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Hello, everybody.
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I'm Nate Carver,
Your Favorite Mortgage Guy.
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On between two doors.
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And today we are talking to Kyle Draper,
the mind
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behind the Rethink Everything series.
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Hey, I'm Nate Carver and welcome
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to Between Two Doors.
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hey, it is good to see you.
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Mate. I'm honored to be here, man.
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We've been we've been talking about me
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coming on your podcast
before you even started it.
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Yeah.
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So, I'm honored
that we finally made this happen.
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I am too, this is, we've been going
for, like, just over two years now.
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Yeah. And, a little background.
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You and I met through a mutual friend
at a steak dinner
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in Fort Worth, Texas,
and we got tomahawk steaks.
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Yes, we did.
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And we took the steak.
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Well, we take the bones back to the dog.
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So did you guys.
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We shared the building in downtown
Fort Worth with these huge.
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And, you know, I,
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I tend to stay friends with people
that I share steaks with.
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Yes. Yeah, I yeah, absolutely.
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And you're such a cool guy to me
and happy you're you're story.
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I love your story.
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Your life journey is fantastic.
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If you want to go,
we can tell a little bit
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about that a few more and bring you up
to bring your view at the speed
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where you are today and how you got there.
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Yeah.
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It it's it's really easy
for those for those that don't know
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me, I, I was a pastor for ten years, and,
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I felt like God told me to go
be a pastor to the business world.
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And so for now, the last 13 years,
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I have been a serial entrepreneur,
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and I've started multiple companies,
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some of which have failed miserably
and lost tons of money.
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And thank God that lately
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they're going well and things are growing.
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And, man, we're having a great time
and it's taking me
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into the real estate world,
into the mortgage space.
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And,
and I'm sure we'll get into even more of
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that as we, we jump into this episode.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And, just, a little over two months ago,
you were a speaker at Mortgage
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Con in Orlando and, got to see you
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there, and, Yeah, you did great.
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You did.
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You did a fantastic presentation,
and it's one of my one of my
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one of the top two that I walked away from
that was like, I'm glad.
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I'm glad I get to see you again.
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Well, and I think there are only three.
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So, you know, there are only three
speakers that, you know, top two
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is not not that great.
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Yeah.
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So so when when did you
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I'm curious how you got into
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the rethink everything.
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The first book is the Purple Book. Yeah.
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And this one right here.
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This is the one I latched on to.
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It's rethink everything you know
about social media.
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That's it.
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And then you've written
others are those coauthored or.
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Yeah.
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In, in the real estate space,
in the mortgage lending space,
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in the, in the home real space.
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And is the
I think that's the most recent one.
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All of it. Yeah.
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You know, Nate, it's it's wild.
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You know,
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the we actually just celebrated
the three year anniversary of the Purple
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Book, which, which was the first book.
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Back then, I didn't know
it was going to be the first book.
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I just thought I was writing a book.
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You know, I, I speak a lot, and,
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for years,
that was what brought me my income.
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And so I thought, man,
I bet if I could write a book,
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it would help me get more
speaking opportunities.
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It would make people think
I'm smart, you know?
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And so I, I just wrote a book
and I called it
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Rethink Everything you know
about social media.
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And as people started hearing about it,
everybody's
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feedback was like, man,
I love the title Rethink Everything.
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Like, it's just such a good kind of motto
to live life by.
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And and so I, I'm not smart enough
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to catch on to things without being like
beat over the head with it.
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And, and
so I was actually on a podcast and,
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and after the podcast was over, the,
the host of that podcast was like,
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man, what what's your vision for
for Rethink Everything?
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And I hadn't really thought about it
from a place of it required a vision.
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You know, I just thought it was a book.
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And so we kind of started talking out loud
and I thought, man,
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why couldn't this be the New Age
book for dummies?
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And why couldn't we tackle topics
from a place of positivity
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and encouragement
instead of calling people dummies?
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And man, we've looked up now and we
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we released our 13th book
a couple weeks ago.
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We've got our 14th and 15th book
coming out in the next ten days,
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and,
man, we're starting to bridge the gap.
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Get out of the mortgage space.
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We just wrote a book about craft beer,
which is, which is super cool,
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and the cover looks like it's, you know,
a beer mug with froth on the top of it.
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And, we've launched the Reading
Everything podcast.
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And so this thing is
truly taking on a life of its own.
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And, we're we're doing some cool stuff.
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I love it.
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Let's.
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So, a lot of realtors will read.
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We'll find this, camera.
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Let's, let's kind of bring that
into the real estate space.
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Yeah. Video marketing,
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getting out in
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front of of people
through video marketing.
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What?
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That, you know, if it's maybe for a lot of
people, it's not their natural
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go to, you know, talks about it
and then they don't do anything.
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Yeah.
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For myself to get into podcasting space.
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And I love it.
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It's not my natural state,
but it's just fun
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and and so, so I'm constantly learning.
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So you're the book that I latched on to
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helps me, in creating,
I guess, the consistency.
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And then, you know, the how to
and really just the mindset,
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no matter what, I'm going
to publish something, I'm going to get out
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some sort of content and some of it's home
run, some of it, you know, fall flat.
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It's okay.
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I don't
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know that I've ever had a home run,
but I know that that it works.
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Even though you're not hitting home runs.
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Yeah.
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It's, as a lender,
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most most of my leads come from realtors
directly.
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Yeah. But
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getting into that space,
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I'm on social media platforms,
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and putting out content as a lender,
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but I'm able it is bringing me
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buyers directly.
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They're not connected to a realtor
in a lot of cases.
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And so that gives me an opportunity
to start referring,
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introducing buyers
to realtors and market.
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And so and I talk to a lot of realtors.
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So I'm like, let me pair
you up with from that bits, you
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and your goals and the location,
you know that area.
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I can attribute that directly
to what I have
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learned out of your out of your purple
book, so that's awesome.
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Are you saying with realtors
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that that, that has been powerful
or transformational in their business?
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Well, I think it's I think it's
leaning into what you just said, you know,
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with with how fast I goes now, and,
and it's only going to get faster and,
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and it's getting harder and harder to
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to spot the fake video and,
and so what I'm seeing now
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more than ever is
it it's getting harder to trust people
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because there's just so much noise
out there.
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And, you know, I,
I love telling the this, this scenario,
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you know, in the traditional process for,
for realtors and lenders.
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Right.
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The process is made up of phone
calls, emails and text messages.
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Right. Nobody's excited about those.
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I don't open my inbox and be like,
yes, 14 new emails to go through. Woo!
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You know like I
that's that's not the way the world works.
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And so I years ago was like, man,
how do I send messages
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to people that are going to be something
they look forward to.
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And as I started sending video,
the feedback was like, man,
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I love that video.
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It was so cool to get a video.
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And then if like one of my kids happens
to like jump into the shot,
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then somebody is like,
oh my gosh, she's so adorable, right?
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And so you start understanding this.
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Nate and I started going,
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I am building trust and rapport
with people.
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Just by getting in front of the camera.
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Because now that you can see me, hear me,
feel me,
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experience me, the trust is built faster.
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But then also here's a big thing
that for those of you
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listening
and watching this, don't miss this.
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Our background says
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words that our words never will.
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And so the other thing I love about
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video is right now in your background,
you've got,
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an American flag folded up over
your shoulder, you've got a cool sailboat.
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And so you're giving people opportunities
to go, man, what's that?
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What's that flag about?
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And now you get to go in
and tell a story, right.
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And and so this morning
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I was on a walk and I was doing videos
while I'm out walking.
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It evokes emotion in people
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when we allow our background
to tell people things about ourselves
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that they may have otherwise
not already known.
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And yeah, and it's.
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Just so powerful and,
and in the real estate space,
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because there's so much cold calling
taking place, there's so many big box
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companies that are just burning
and churning through numbers.
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Your people are being sold to every day
by somebody.
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And so if you can't figure out
how to stay top of mind to them,
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you're going to struggle and you're going
to keep hearing stories of like what
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my neighbor just did, what I would have
I would have thought
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I would have got that job.
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But you're not top of mind.
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And so Video
like what we're doing right now
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and it
it allows you to touch all the senses
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so that you can build trust
to such a level
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that no one would ever consider
using anyone else.
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And, and and that's, that's
what I'm seeing.
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Right.
The second is the biggest differentiator.
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If if, if they're willing to step
through the discomfort to do it right.
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And a lot of stuff
like I just did a recording this morning,
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out in the garden.
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So I do this big garden every year.
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I eat a lot of it, and a lot of it
give a whole lot of it away.
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Yeah, it's nothing to do with lending.
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I mean, I can tie it.
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I can tell a story.
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I can weave a story in the lending
in real estate on that garden,
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you know, delayed gratification,
a process it.
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But I just get out there
in that a little garden update.
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Just talk about the garden.
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And I think I think realtors myself
included as a loan officer, talking
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about the things that are not industry
specific or connected.
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Yeah. Creates a touch point.
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That's how I see it.
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And it, you know, this business
is relational, I don't care.
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I love the I,
I lean into the a, but your relationships
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are, is going to be a key piece
that and I can't replace
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right or call center
and and those are, those are win.
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So anyway, yeah, I just
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I did a little garden update this morning
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I think about my realtor partners
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Do it.
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Update do your neighborhood highlights,
community events, you know, spotlight,
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you know, the Easter events coming up
as, as we're recording this,
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but then, you know, if you love fishing,
if you love Harley Davidson,
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whatever those little, little nuances
that are normal in your everyday life.
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That's right. Resonate with somebody.
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And, let.
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Me let me tell you this story.
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So last year I got I was playing golf
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and I had retired from golf
for over a decade.
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So most people didn't even know that
I like golf.
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So I, I just recently picked golf back up.
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I got an email from a mortgage company
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that wanted to hire me
to speak at their sales rally.
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And so right there from the golf cart
between shots, I recorded a video.
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I was like, hey,
thanks so much for reaching out.
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I'd love to speak at your event.
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I'll connect you to my team. Right.
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And there's so many people that would
have been like, that's so unprofessional.
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You don't want people to know
that you're not working.
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And I'm like, what are you talking about?
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I'm literally
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I'm sending them this video.
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And and so now what happened
is I sent that video.
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They paid
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me the most I've ever been paid
to speak in my life.
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And while I was at their event
in Missouri, guess what they did?
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They took me to play golf. Why?
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Because I was playing golf in the
background of the video I sent them.
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I didn't send them
like a one page document.
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That's like one of my requirements
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is that y'all take me to play golf
while I'm there.
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It was in the background of my video,
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and so not only did I make the most money
I've ever made speaking for 50 minutes,
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but I also got to play golf for free
and and that is
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is the power of what we're talking about.
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That's that's the video that that's why
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you can do a video about anything.
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You can be in any environment
and it can and will create
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business opportunity, whether you're
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It's so powerful.
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Wow. Yeah I got a guy
I got a realtor that he is
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branding is Harley's
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and he will be my, the he rides up
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closing on a Harley and I love it.
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I do I think
do you know you we're going to highlight
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that and I know I just know
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he's going to have a line of
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Harley owners
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looking to buy or sell a home with him.
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I'm 100% on that one point in. Yup, yup.
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He does a lot of other things too.
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But that that's his big.
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That is him.
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And then he's authentic.
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It's authentically him.
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So we also Nate,
we love to overcomplicate.
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Like how many people we need to know.
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And so the for somebody
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it would be so easy for them to go. Yeah.
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But like what
if you don't like Harley's. Right.
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We go to the negative first.
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I don't like Harleys.
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I'm afraid of motorcycles
I like that dude's not his Harley.
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Videos
aren't going to connect to me. Who cares.
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Because in the real estate world
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if your goal is to sell 40 houses.
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What do you need 3000
people do agree with your videos for
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you just need the right people.
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Yeah.
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And so we've got to remind ourselves
that we don't need to be creating
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vanilla content that feels like
it will connect the most broad.
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Yeah, we need to be doing things
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that are true differentiators,
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like you having a garden
that's not normal.
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That's not what the average person
is talking about.
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And so it truly gives you a sticking point
with people just like the Harleys do.
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Just like me. Golfing does
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mean we've we've got to expose people
to other aspects of our lives
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beyond just buying or selling houses,
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because that doesn't happen.
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But every 3 to 5 years.
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Yeah, but the garden and the Harley
and the golf happen every week.
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And so that's how
we've got to stay top of mind to people.
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Yeah.
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And then I find especially with I,
you have my chat, I got my chat set up,
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I can ask you anything
anything about real estate lending.
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And it's going to give me the,
the correct answer.
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So, you know, being a dictionary
or being an encyclopedia
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or is I'm finding
that less and less borrowers,
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savvy borrowers, realtors
they can get that information.
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What they can't get is my random fat
cat in the garden,
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you know, that, you know, or, you know,
the fact that we're Salem, you know,
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I can talk about that, you know, and,
you know,
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those touch points are personal.
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And I'm seeing that less and less.
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Hey, me what's, you know,
what's the minimum
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downpayment for an FHA, for example?
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Or or less and less those kinds
of questions I'm seeing more and more of.
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Hey, wife and I just got back from our
our cruise.
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We're ready to buy a house. Great.
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Tell me about the cruise.
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I want to know about that.
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The other stuff, it it plays into it.
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It'll come it we'll get to the mortgage,
you know, but,
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the connection to their
their life is so important.
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And that's where as for what you do
and what you're coaching with realtors
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and loan officers is, is just a home run
for for the ones that lean in and do it.
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And it's so quick
that video to maybe a minute right.
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Well, I mean.
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What.
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What most people are missing is
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did did you need to ask about their cruise
for that transaction to happen?
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No. Right.
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They called you about buying a home.
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You didn't have to ask about that.
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That probably didn't
change anything with them buying a house.
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But what it did is it further solidifies
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you as a representative in their life.
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Yeah.
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So that in the 3 to 5 years between now
and when they buy another one,
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they're going to want to refer you.
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They want to see you win
because they value you beyond
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just a guy that has access to money
to help them get what they want.
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And so this is what people miss is
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we're playing chess
while everybody else is playing checkers.
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Right? Checkers is like,
oh, just jump that.
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Just jump that piece.
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That's the buy.
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But no, we're going no no no no no no.
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We're we're making multiple moves
to position myself
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to win down the road and do this. Is it.
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My greatest referral partners
have never been my clients.
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They're people that love me, love
my family, love
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seeing my kids champion my life.
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And they want to see me win.
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And if we don't tap
into the human side of this.
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You're you're going to always
be busting your butt
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looking for new strangers to trust you
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because you're not really doing anything
with all the people that you already know.
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So you've seen the shift in
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how buyers
homebuyers are picking their realtors.
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You've seen that front
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in from the time
you published your book even.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's,
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what's the advantage to the realtor
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if if the buyer,
if the home buyer, they feel like
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they already know their agent,
especially, you know, social media?
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It's been around a while,
but leaning into the video content.
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That they had the advantage advantages.
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You don't have to sell.
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All right.
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I had a sales call.
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The reason I got on here early
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is I scheduled for 11,
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that my sales call was over by 1112
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because he was already
in, you know, what he was already in?
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Because he came to me by way of referral
to, to a buddy of mine.
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I sent a video to him
the moment we got connected.
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And so by the time he and I actually got
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on the phone,
he already had received a video from me.
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He'd already been talked up about
me by our mutual friend.
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And so it was over.
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I didn't have to convince him of anything.
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And that's the beauty
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of when we do this right relationally,
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you don't have to convince someone
that you're the right realtor.
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You only have to figure out
when's the right day to start.
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And that's a massive difference
in the way we have conversations.
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Then when I'm nervous going
oh I hope they pick me.
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I hope I can convince them
that I'm good enough.
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And now what did I just say.
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Me me me my my my I made it all about me.
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Yeah.
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But when we make it about them,
it makes their decision
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to choose us easy. And.
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And that's the superpower.
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When when you do this the right way.
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Nice.
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You I'm going to pivot a little bit.
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You've added I think it's new.
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It was new to me.
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The high culture virtual assistants.
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Yeah, I want to I want to dive into that
a little bit for, for realtors.
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And what you're doing for them
to, to help them
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stay in front of, of their database
because then a lot of people,
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and helping them manage
what that assistant does for them.
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Yeah.
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Now, six years ago,
I hired my first virtual assistant.
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Scared to death.
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Had no clue what I was doing.
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I just assumed they were going to steal
all my information
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and take money out of my bank account
without me knowing.
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And, it was
it was the opposite of that. And,
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used Vas to scale multiple businesses,
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decided
to pivot to offer Vas to other people.
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Two years ago.
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And, did what what a game changer it is.
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Because no one's good at everything.
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And most realtors that I know,
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they they're really just good
salespeople, right?
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They're good.
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They're good relationship people.
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They're not good systems people.
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They're not good business people. Right?
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They just are. They just like people.
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And so very quickly,
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you hit this threshold
in the real estate space where it's like,
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I don't want another deal,
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because the headache
that it creates for me with the paperwork
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and the processes, I,
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I just don't want to deal with it anymore.
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Right.
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Or you have the realtor
that they love the deal,
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but they don't love the marketing.
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And so they don't want to spend time in
Canva creating graphics
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that they don't want to spend
time in a CRM, building it out
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to consistently communicate to people
because that's not what they like.
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Well, the beauty of the VA is
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if you know where your inefficient.
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If I understand my weakness,
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I can go higher for the weakness.
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Yeah, me.
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And so I have assistance that they live
in my inbox because I'm not organized.
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I'm disorganized, I'm
not a detail guy, I'm a big picture guy.
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And so I have now
all these people around me that they fill
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the holes that I have
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so that we're a super team.
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And because these men
and women are overseas,
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they're being paid unbelievably
well for where they live.
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But it's incredibly cheap labor
for where we live.
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Right.
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And so to me, it's still the the best way
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to scale a business
that most people still don't know about.
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Yeah. It's fantastic.
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I, I can put up record
and you and I can have a conversation.
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I can't tell you anything about Canva.
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Or the set up or what
it takes on the back end for a podcast.
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Don't know.
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Right. All right, Jack, I got an expert.
484
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That's right.
485
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,520
And they run with it, and it's.
486
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,360
Yeah, I don't have to.
487
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:44,600
That frees me to do the things that
I'm good at and great at in that column.
488
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,440
And then I have this other column, things
489
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480
I'm awful at, things
I definitely not in my skill set.
490
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Right. Or that I'm just not wired for.
491
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,400
And I've found people, through the,
492
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,240
the virtual assistants
that that's what they love doing.
493
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,560
That's right.
494
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,400
They would not be a good salesperson.
495
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Right on asking do sales. Yeah.
496
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,600
I mean, they I,
I'm running three companies right now.
497
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,480
So in any one day I could have calls
498
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480
that represent all three companies.
499
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,400
On Monday, I think I had like
14 appointments on Monday.
500
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,760
And I'd have a talking to
with my assistant of like, dude,
501
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,040
you got to protect my calendar
a little bit better
502
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,520
because I can't be doing that.
That's too much.
503
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,560
But the beauty of it is
I have all these meetings on zoom.
504
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,400
Zoom sends
505
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,880
I notes from the meeting to my inbox,
506
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,480
and then my assistant jumps into those
AI notes, knows exactly what was talked
507
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,280
about, knows exactly what I told them
I would send them next.
508
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,600
And so I get to keep doing what I do
509
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,600
well, which is talk to people.
510
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,440
And then because of technology in them.
511
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,440
And then my assistant,
he's in the background
512
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,720
pulling all these levers,
sending all these files,
513
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,080
creating agreements and payment links.
514
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,280
And I don't have to touch it.
515
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,280
And it's an incredible
516
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,480
I couldn't imagine my life without it.
517
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,120
I would have cells
if I had to do all that on my own.
518
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Oh yeah.
519
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,400
Yeah, you get to focus on
the things you're gifted at.
520
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,200
That's right. And nice.
521
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,800
But that's where the, the,
the job doesn't feel like a job.
522
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,800
It's,
it's it's a lifestyle or it's calling,
523
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,400
100% for you.
524
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,040
Tactically, let's say,
let's say a realtor is listing
525
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,680
and, what they do like
526
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,840
marketing, let's improve their marketing
in the next 30 days.
527
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,400
I don't know if there
were like, immediately.
528
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Nate, we.
529
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,160
So in one of my companies,
we did we just did an AI summit yesterday
530
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,960
and and, my business partner
is a mortgage broker up in Seattle,
531
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,600
and he,
he records all of his intake calls.
532
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,680
So if he's meeting with a potential buyer,
533
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,680
he is he's recording everything.
534
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,680
He then is able to have his assistant
take that transcript,
535
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:26,040
throw it into I get AI to pull quotes
from it to pull stories from it,
536
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,480
and then jump into Canva and create
graphics, create carousels.
537
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Right?
538
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,960
All from exactly what he said
during an intake call.
539
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,280
And so for the for the realtor,
that's like,
540
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,320
I just don't have time to do marketing.
541
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,720
You don't have to have time.
542
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,720
You're already doing it
on your calls with buyers and sellers.
543
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,800
And so you were just recording those, man.
544
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,520
You're going to have video
clips, you're going to have quotes
545
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,320
that are going to look awesome
on the internet
546
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,640
that you're never going to run out of,
and you never had to lift a finger
547
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,520
to do anything outside
of what you normally do, other than maybe
548
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,320
change the mechanism that you communicate
through to make sure you can record it.
549
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Yeah.
550
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,280
But even, you know, if we're on the phone,
551
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,520
I've got a device card called, applaud
552
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,400
the cam clip on my shirt,
553
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,840
or it's like a business card,
and I just set it on the table.
554
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,600
And so even if I'm on the phone,
I can record
555
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,600
my side of the conversation,
556
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,920
and it's just unbelieve.
557
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,760
I mean, I can have
558
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,120
I can have 10 to 12 blogs written through
I from every sales call.
559
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,680
I do.
560
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,480
That's what I would be doing.
561
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Yeah. Wow.
562
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Yeah, I did, I had a call with a buyer,
first time home buyer.
563
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,320
She's paying rent about 2600 a month.
564
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,280
And and I took that whole conversation.
565
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,720
I said, what can you buy with your $2,600
566
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,760
and had the same monthly payment
in McKinney, Texas, you know,
567
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,960
taxes, insurance,
a whole nine yard, $330,000 home.
568
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,920
It's what she would qualify for
way, right?
569
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680
Yeah. Oh, it was I just that conversation.
570
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,600
I pasted it into chat as it created
graphic and.
571
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,560
Yeah, just it created a really cool little
graphic of girl nine, her first home.
572
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,960
And it had, you know,
first month of taxes, $2.600.
573
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,080
I went from renting for 26 to owning
574
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,520
and and I'll,
I'll put that on social media.
575
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,320
I will switch from just that one little.
576
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,400
Incredible.
577
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,240
It was incredible.
578
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,040
And so I was like, oh,
we got to do that on everything.
579
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,520
Well, and then think about this.
580
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,920
So I'm using a new app now called gamma
and the website's gamma Dot app.
581
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,200
It's an AI slideshow presentation builder.
582
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,960
And so imagine if you recorded the call
that you recorded,
583
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,640
you created the social graphic
that it help you create.
584
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,680
But then you took that whole transcript,
you fed it into gamma,
585
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,960
and you said, hey,
format this on a on a slideshow
586
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,440
that I can send to that potential buyer
as a follow up.
587
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040
And now you have an 8 to 10 slide
slideshow
588
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,600
that you can walk them through
or let them look through on their own.
589
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960
And it makes
you look like a million bucks.
590
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280
But yeah, it took three minutes
for that thing to build.
591
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,040
And inside of of of the AI.
592
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Yeah.
593
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,080
Is that conversation with the visual.
594
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,240
That's that's wonderful gamma thank you.
595
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,080
I'm not.
596
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,320
Yeah.
597
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Go get. Wow.
598
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,360
Something
a real estate agent should be creating
599
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360
right now, man.
600
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640
So what what I the the biggest downfall
601
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,720
that I'm seeing that unfortunately,
realtors and lenders won't fill
602
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,960
until it's too late,
is they're trying to automate everything.
603
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,520
And and so what we're watching is as all
these big mergers are happening, right.
604
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Like we just saw like a massive,
you know, mortgage company buy Redfin.
605
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,600
Right.
606
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400
And and so we're seeing
these mergers happen
607
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,960
or we're seeing these massive companies
with billions of dollars.
608
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,440
Well guess what.
609
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440
All of those companies
are going to have better tech than me.
610
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,320
They're going to have better,
you know, sop's than me.
611
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,440
They're everything is going to be better
than I can do it,
612
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,920
except the fact
that they can't be a human being.
613
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Yeah.
614
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,360
And so what I would say that that realtors
need to really be focused on right now
615
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,840
is not to automate
the authenticity out of the transaction,
616
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,560
because the moment you do
617
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,520
that, why wouldn't
they just go to Rocket Mortgage, right?
618
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Like because if if everything
is automated all over the place,
619
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,960
why not go to the automation
that has the most money behind it?
620
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,080
The reason
people don't want to go to rocket
621
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,680
is because they want a human being.
622
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,720
They want a Nate Carver.
623
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,880
That is going to be able to get on zoom
with them, answer
624
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,880
their questions, be their guide.
625
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,040
And that can't happen if we're constantly
trying to automate everything.
626
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,000
So do not automate
what was meant to stay relational.
627
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,640
You know.
628
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480
And I think that is really
like the North Star
629
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,000
for everybody in our industry right now
is we're not pooping on automation.
630
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,840
We want it,
631
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840
but not at the expense of relationship.
632
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Right.
633
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Because that will always
634
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,680
be the differentiator as AI continues
to get better and better, right?
635
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,200
The real person is going to ultimately be
the best opportunity for somebody to win.
636
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360
And and so we've got to show
up for people in that like,
637
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,480
yeah.
638
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,360
Tell me, favorite,
639
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,560
is there a, social media platform
that realtors should prioritize?
640
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,680
This is a trick question, but.
641
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,240
Yeah, I mean, the the
642
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,960
I mean, yes, there
there is an answer, but I don't think
643
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,000
it's it's an answer for me.
644
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,720
I think everybody watching listening
this has a favorite platform,
645
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,240
even if it's just their favorite
for consuming.
646
00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:31,560
Right.
647
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,560
They may not post it a lot,
but they're consuming it.
648
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040
My advice is pick
649
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,880
a platform
that you can begin to get consistent with.
650
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,240
And then whenever you create
651
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:48,240
content for that platform,
put it everywhere else.
652
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600
I don't spend time
making unique content like, whoa,
653
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,760
how should I write this,
this copy for Facebook?
654
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,760
And then how should that copy
be different for Instagram?
655
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,520
And then should I also then like
make a video separate just for TikTok?
656
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,120
And it's just so much
nobody has time for that.
657
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,760
And so pick a platform, begin
to create for that platform,
658
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,280
and then just start throwing
that content everywhere else.
659
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,720
And it's unbelievable what you will see
happen if you don't allow yourself
660
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,840
to get overwhelmed early
because you're trying to do all of it.
661
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,640
Don't do all of it.
662
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,080
If Facebook's your jam, start there.
663
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,720
You're not old, Facebook's still relevant.
664
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,000
Or you might be old.
665
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,840
Guess what? Facebook's still relevant.
666
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,760
It is. It still works.
667
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,400
The AI summit
that we just hosted yesterday,
668
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,720
most of our signups
came from Facebook, not anywhere else.
669
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,840
And so lean into one
670
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,840
and and I think you'll
you'll be glad that you did.
671
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,440
Yeah I agree.
672
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,280
Tell me too.
673
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,560
I sort of lost
a little personal reflection
674
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,080
outside of business
and outside of marketing.
675
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,080
What's something that shaped your life
for today?
676
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,800
Oh, man, I,
677
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,560
I mean, I think right now, the season I'm
in, I've got three kids, 13,
678
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,320
11 and two, and, and so I,
679
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,040
I am learning from them every single day.
680
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,680
They, they keep me on my toes.
681
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,320
They keep me humble when,
when I want to brag about something and,
682
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,320
you know, and they're quick to be like,
yeah, but you're not famous, dad.
683
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,360
You know, and so, I love the humility the
684
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,480
that they continue to beat,
beat me down to a choir.
685
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,800
But, man, life's just so much fun.
686
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,400
Like seeing it through kid's eyes and.
Yeah.
687
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,680
And realizing, like, how quick we are
to take things too seriously as adults.
688
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,400
It's not a big deal.
689
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,880
It's a singular moment, you know?
690
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,720
And so I love,
you know, learning the bounce back
691
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,080
when you can watch a kid, like,
have such a sad moment.
692
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,880
And then five minutes later, they're like,
693
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,440
what?
694
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,640
There's a cartoon on.
695
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,360
And it's like the sad moment
didn't even exist.
696
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,320
And so, man,
I think that's what I'm learning right now
697
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,080
is, is the art of the bounce back
by watching them.
698
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,720
Wow, man, I love your energy
every time I hang out with you.
699
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:23,240
What motivates you?
700
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Nate I just love people.
701
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,760
My my motto in life
since I was 20 years old has been
702
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,040
I want to leave people
better than I find them.
703
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,520
And and that's it, right?
704
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,280
That like, I know that's very broad,
705
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,920
but but what I love about it is,
you know, what?
706
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,360
If the only interaction I get
707
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,720
with somebody today is holding the door
open for them at the gas station?
708
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,880
And so you better bet
I'm a smile really big at them.
709
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,320
And I'm going to I'm going to say hi.
710
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,600
And because that may be the most
cheerful moment they have their whole day,
711
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,440
right?
712
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,000
Or I get the opportunity to coach someone,
I get the opportunity
713
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,440
to go deeper with somebody.
714
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,520
But I always want somebody saying, man,
715
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,720
I smile bigger when Kyle's in the room.
716
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:11,040
I feel better about myself.
717
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040
When Kyle's in the room.
718
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,040
I'm glad I knew Kyle in that season.
719
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,560
All right.
720
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,360
That that that is
my motivation is is leaving
721
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,360
people better than I find them.
722
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,720
And, it's
what gets me excited to wake up every day.
723
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,680
I love it.
724
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Tell me,
how about out of time in, I promise
725
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,400
I try to keep this about 30 minutes,
but you're.
726
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,240
It's someone's work in the, to partner up
727
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,560
with you and,
grow their real estate business.
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And how can they best get Ahold of you?
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Yeah, I'm.
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I'm coach Kyle Draper on social media.
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You can go to Kyle draper.com.
732
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You can go to higher culture. Viacom.
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But if you just go Google Kyle Draper,
you're you're going to find
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plenty of opportunities
to connect with me.
735
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I'll put I'll put back links.
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I'll get you linked up in here.
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Anybody's watching or listening
on your favorite platform.
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Those links will be somewhere
connected to this video or audio.
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Kyle. Thank you. Yes. Okay.
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It's good seeing you again.
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They appreciate you, man.
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Thanks for having me.














