Episode 71: Find Your Possum Kingdom Lake Lifestyle with Jo Lynn Miller

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All right.

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Cliffs, coves, community.

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If you have ever wondered what it's like
to live out at Possum Kingdom Lake in Texas,

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have I got a podcast for you today!

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Hey everyone, I'm

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Nate Carver, Your Favorite Mortgage Guy
and host of Between Two Doors.

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And today we are talking to an awesome
real estate

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agent over at Possum Kingdom Lake. And

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Hey, I'm Nate Carver and welcome

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to Between Two Doors.

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Hi, Jo Lynn, how are you?

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Hi, Nate. I'm great. How are you?

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I'm doing good. I'm doing good, boy.

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An opportunity to talk about that area.

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I have been
I've been there one time for a,

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a youth camp event that I crashed
with a bunch of friends in college.

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We had a blast. Beautiful area.

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And, anyway, I'm super excited
to get you on on the podcast.

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So, let me let's jump right into it.

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Let's say
I've never been to Possum Kingdom Lake.

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And, so here's your challenge.

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I've just arrived at Possum Kingdom
for the very first time.

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It's Friday afternoon.

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I've got a whole

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weekend ahead of me,
and you're my tour guide.

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Where are we going first?

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Well, I hope that you got here
when it was daylight savings time,

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because it takes a long time
to see everything.

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And if I'm going to get you very much done
on a Friday afternoon,

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we need lots of daylight.

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But the first thing we're going to do is

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probably drive around the peninsula
area of Possum Kingdom Lake,

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so that you can see
how things look from the road

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and how you can almost not tell
you're at the lake. It's

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so it's so different
from what people imagine,

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because you look at pictures
and you see pictures of the water.

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But if you're driving down the peninsula,

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there are so many trees and hillsides
that you almost can't see the water.

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Oh, okay.

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It's super fun when you drive past
and there's an opening and you can see it,

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and then we’re going to get to the end
of the peninsula where Sandy Beach is,

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and you can see the whole big open
water is so fine.

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And then after that, we're going to start
shooting off some of those side roads

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to see the differences in the terrain.

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And then we're going to go
to probably Observation Point.

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So you can look out over the dam
and see that fabulous view.

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And then from there
go to the south end of the lake

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where you can see the cliffs and Gaines
Bend, and Hell's Gate.

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You can't come to Possum Kingdom
without seeing Hell's Gate.

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Nice.

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So you got a great view, sunset
views out there.

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I love it and I'm going to get hungry.

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It's going to be inspirational
looking at all that. So we're,

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right off the top of your head.

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Where’s the must-go-to eat place?

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Probably the best one to go to
is going to be Hemingway's,

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because you can sit out on the patio
and see people by boat.

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They have a great menu.

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And. Right, a really cool outside

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patio area with docks all the way around.

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Big open water that you can enjoy
while you're having lunch or dinner,

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and a really good bar.

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And a really good bar. Nice.

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And you can do boating out there too,
obviously.

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So yeah.

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Yeah, you can pull up games by boat.

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So. So how far into my,
excursion at Possum Kingdom

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are we going to get before
I start noticing houses and like,

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oh, and start and start thinking,
this is where I need to live.

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Oh, gosh.

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Well, first off, we also still have not
been to the west side of the lake,

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so that's a whole, whole nother.

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Okay,

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there's 310 miles of shoreline at Possum
Kingdom Lake.

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And if you're driving, you, takes a lot
longer to see than if you're on the boat.

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So for some people,

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the best way to see it
all is to go by the boat.

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But you can't always find all the homes
that are available.

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And that's why I like to go by road.

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So. Right.

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Probably before we get too hungry

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for food, you're going to be going,
hey, what about that house?

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Right?

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I saw something over there on that street
that I'd really like to get a closer

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look at.

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So I'm going to say pretty quickly,

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you're going to be thinking, wow,
this place is fabulous.

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And why have I not been here before?

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And how do I get a house

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and it.

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Yeah.

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For for residents there you got,

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you got lakefront property
walking distance property.

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Right.

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And then there's public access and parks.

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Oh yeah. All that.

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And it's so lakefront is so different
per person.

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Almost right.

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As you can be

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on the peninsula, you can have a property
where you just like walk

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out your back door and across the backyard,
and you're in the lake.

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Or you can have a property
that's on a 200ft cliff

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overlooking the water,
and you can't walk to it at all.

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You'd have to go to the marina
to get to it, or

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you can have anywhere in between.

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And then there's those properties that are

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not necessarily lakefront, but close to.

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So a block off the lake.

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Yeah.

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Go to a public, a public ramp,
put your boat in

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or go to one of the
there's a couple of bigger park areas

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where you can have a picnic playground.

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Some of you can even camp overnight
at wow.

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Do I just side note on those cliffs or are
there are those

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diving cliffs
like jumping off kind of cliffs?

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Is it maybe not everywhere,
but certainly somewhere around there?

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That's for the central part.

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For the adventurers.

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Most people do know
that sometime in our past

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we have had the Red Bull cliff
divers here.

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This was their off.

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Like their only US stop for three
consecutive years.

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Wow. They did dive off of Hell's Gate.

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And it's, If I remember correctly,

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the height of the platform

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was 90ft above the water,

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so. Wow, that's.

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That's a pretty far.

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That's. That's. Yes, that's.

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Yeah, I think, I think the women's
platform was 60ft, but the men's was 90.

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And that's at the top of Devil's
Island at Hell's Gate.

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Right. Okay.

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All right. So my, my, my cheat sheet here

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says you started,
or you grew up in Iowa Park, Texas.

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So Lake life
wasn't completely foreign to you.

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But let's say back in 2006,
some changes happened.

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And tell me about,
how you got the Possum Kingdom.

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Okay, so Iowa Park is definitely not
a lake area.

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It's in Wichita County,
and there's some lakes there.

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So the lake that I went to the most
as a child was Lake Arrowhead.

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And it's a nice enough lake,
but it's not comparable

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to Possum Kingdom Lake
as far as size and terrain and variation.

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So I did come to Possum Kingdom

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like in high school
with some friends and spent a weekend.

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This is where I learned to water ski and
really never came back again until 2006.

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So from 1978 or 9 until 2006,
I just didn't really get over here.

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We had a family reunion at,

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Rock Creek Camp on the north
end of the lake.

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Stayed in a camper
on the back of the pickup, and

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woke up on Saturday morning,
pulled the picnic

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table up to the back of the pickup
and drank my coffee,

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looking out over the lake
and across the hillsides and fell in love.

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Yeah.

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That's a moment when I talk about it.

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I can still feel it.

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Yeah. I just love. That. Leave again.

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It it's like I just want to stay here and
and I kind of did.

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So that was April of oh six.

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We came back a few times on weekends.

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Then it turned out I had a friend
who had a property she was ready to give

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up. And basically when I said give up,

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I just had to pay some back taxes.

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And and I got my first lake place that way
and that.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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That was in February of oh seven.

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And,

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I would leave work at noon on Thursday

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and stay at the Lake Place

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until Tuesday morning,
then drive back to work.

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And then, then we actually had a,

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my husband
had a chance to take a different job

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that made it possible for us
to come to the lake, which was halfway

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between my family in Iowa Park
and his family in the Weatherford area.

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And so we just uprooted and moved to PK

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in June of 2007.

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All right.

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What's something about PK that

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that it gave you that you didn't realize
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serenity?

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Yeah.

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That's the simplest way for me
to explain it, because, like I said,

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I can literally still feel that feeling
that I felt that morning sitting there

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drinking my coffee, thinking,
I don't ever want to leave this place.

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Even now, when I'm so busy,
I hardly have time to enjoy the lake.

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But I still,

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if I leave town and come back.

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When I drive down Park Road 36

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or on even on highway 16,
getting to the lake, I'm like,

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oh, this feels better.

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You talked a little bit about the coves
and the cliffs

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and boating and the sunsets.

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How about one of my things?

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Fishing. What's the fishing like there?

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Fishing is great.

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I don't have the patience
to be still and quiet to fish.

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Yeah I can't fishing. Not catching.

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Yeah, right.

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In my case, they call it chatting.

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Scaring this.

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But I've been known to scare the fish.

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But actually,

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I've run trotlines on the lake, and
I've been out with fishing guides.

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My brother loves to fish, and he swears
it's the greatest lake in the world.

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Not just in Texas.

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He lives in Las Vegas,
and fishes at Lake Mead. But,

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he says this is the best fishing anywhere.

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And we have lots of,
really good guides on the lake.

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Yeah. We have secret spots.

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What's. Your brother catching?

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My brother's favorite to fish for
is either catfish or crappie.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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We have. A lot of fun.
I know. Right? Yeah.

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I love it when you're on the boat and the.

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And the crappie are jumping
and they're just splashing everywhere.

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It's so cool. Yeah.

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And they both
make great fish fries, right?

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We have great bass out here as well.

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And. Yeah,
you know, they stock here below the dam,

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the Texas Parks and Wildlife stocks

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and, what is it
they bring every December?

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Trout. Yeah. Yeah.

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I didn't know that.

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Oh, yeah.

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There's a big fly
fishing following out here.

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Oh, wow.

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You had to go a long way
to go trout fishing.

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Not anymore.

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You just come to Possum
Kingdom Lake, down below the dam.

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Wow.

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Let's see.

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All right.

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So. So what surprised you,

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from visiting Possum Kingdom
and living in Possum Kingdom?

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That is a big difference.

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Generally, when people visit the lake,
they spend

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most of their time on the water.

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You know,
you get in the boat and you go from

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before lunch until sundown

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and see all the neat places you can see
on the boat, all the different coves

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you can anchor at and jump off
and swim and splash.

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But when you live here

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now, I guess that varies for different
families and different occupations.

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Sure.

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As a realtor,

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I probably spend a whole lot more time
in my car than I do on the boat.

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Yeah, but I think the biggest difference

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for a resident versus a visitor

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is that you

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enjoy the the lake differently.

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Like I said,
I'm hardly ever out on the boat.

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going all the places,
but I see the water from my window

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and it just brings me a peaceful feeling.

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And, when the kids or family
or grandkids are here, we can go out

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and just walk.

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we're lucky enough to have a place
where we can just walk out into the water.

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But if you want to go on the boat,
you know, we know where to go.

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We don't have to go hunt for a place.

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Would you.

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Would you have any idea on,

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on the the homes there, like,
I don't know,

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maybe percentage wise if,
if you know that,

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primary residences, second homes

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or short term, long term
rental opportunities,

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they're just thinking

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the different types of people
that would be looking to buy it in

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Possum Kingdom Lake. Right.

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So we have a lot of differences.

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Since COVID, that has definitely changed.

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We have, you know, more
people work from home and work remotely.

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So there's probably a greater full-time

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population than there was before 2020.

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I would still say

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the majority of our buyers.

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people shopping for
the lake are second-home buyers

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or maybe investment buyers,
you know, looking to do short term.

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But we have a lot of retirees as well.

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So, I would

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guesstimate and it's just a guess that

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less than

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a third of the population is full time
residents.

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And the other two thirds of people

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having a second home or and most of them,
even if they do short

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term rental, it's
not just that it's right.

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It's their lake place and a short-term
rental for when they're not using it.

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But we have some
we have some biggest investments.

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But tell me, what were you doing

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before we became an amazing
real estate agent?

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Before that I worked.

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I lived in Iowa Park for 42 years.

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That was my hometown.

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I never dreamed of leaving there.

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Never me.

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It just never crossed my mind until I came
here in love with the lake and the area.

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But before that, I ran the Iowa Park
Recreational Activity Center, which is

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a United Way-funded
nonprofit agency.

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Okay.

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Pretty much like a community center.

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We were the place
where people held their meetings, like

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there was about eight other nonprofits
that held their weekly meetings there.

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People had family reunions there.

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They rented out rooms for parties
or events.

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I started the afterschool

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and summer program known as RAC Pack Kids.

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Yeah.

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So that, we had a safe place for kids
to be after school and in the summer.

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Okay.

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That was super fun.

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That was probably,

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I feel like
one of my best accomplishments.

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All right.

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Anything from that time

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You're doing that that you

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found, useful

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or extremely helpful or unique
in the real estate space?

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Yes, actually.

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So because it was the United Way funded,

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we participated in the United Way
annual campaigns, and,

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and I got the opportunity to be,

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very involved in fundraising and public
speaking

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and speaking to groups
and learning to listen

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to what people wanted to do,
how they wanted to do it.

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And so I think those,

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public relations skills

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definitely helped a whole lot
with this career.

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I also learned that I'm
the kind of person that does

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not like to do the same kind of thing
all day, every day in my job.

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And yeah, it may be I had not done
real estate at all before I came here.

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And right. It was easy for me to see.

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This is just a different avenue
of public relations.

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What was the

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the trigger or the thing that for you

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that said,
I need to go be a real estate agent?

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It was accidental.

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Yeah. Purely accidental.

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I was,

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dropping off resumes at places
to collect my unemployment.

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And I specifically was dropping off
resumes at places

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where I didn't think they would hire me

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because I just wanted
to retire at the lake.

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But I think we've all been there.

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Right?

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But I did get bored quickly
with retirement.

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And so, I had dropped off a resume at,

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several real estate offices,
and it was probably two weeks.

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And then I got a phone call from a lady
that said I was out of the country.

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But when I got back, your resume
was on my desk, and I think you would be

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a perfect fit
as a personal assistant for me.

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And so I met with her,
and before we finished lunch,

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I could finish her sentences.

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We just clicked like we were meant to be.

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And yeah, she was the broker and owner of,
a family owned

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real estate company
here at the Lake Johnson Properties.

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And I worked about three days
as her personal assistant.

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And then she decided that needed
to be full-time, and it was almost 24/7.

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I mean, I did all sorts of stuff for her,
and it was great.

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We just were the best of friends.

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And it we became more like family.

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And then she decided that, all right.

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And y'all are still doing life together.

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Yes. Yeah.

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She's still one of my greatest friends,
and she's from the Wichita Falls area.

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So we grew up in the same area,
and it was just so perfect.

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But she decided that I could do
more for her

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in the real estate business and not just
her personal calendars and stuff.

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If I had my license and,

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I still at that point
didn't think that I was interested in

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being a realtor because I was learning it
from the inside out.

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And there's a lot more to it
than people realize.

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But when she suggested it, I said,

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well, if you want to pay for my license,
I'll take the classes.

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I didn't think she would say, okay.

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She did.

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And so, she paid for my classes.

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She told me, don't be surprised
if you have to take the test

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more than once. And I was just offended.

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I was like, no, I'm going to pass the test
the first time, which I did.

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And, I worked as her assistant for

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from 2007 until 2011, almost 12,

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even though I got my license

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in 2009
and I was also working my own business,

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I still worked as her assistant
for until she retired.

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Right? Yeah.

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So, so in

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in the real estate world,
there's all kinds of transactions.

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Oh. Yeah.

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I mean, you can dream of it.

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It's it's a transaction.

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You am. I write in pretty well.

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You focus completely in
specializing in Possum Kingdom, right?

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Yes, yes,
I have done transactions in other areas,

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but my

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was here at Possum Kingdom Lake.

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And my specialty is lake properties.

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Right. Okay.

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So it’s fair to say, I mean, you know
that place forwards and backwards.

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You can probably map out every street
without your eyes open.

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So yeah, I mean I've had plenty of years.

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I can remember getting lost.

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I do remember her
sending me to check on listings.

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I'm like,
I need a map, because, yeah, when I first

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started, GPS
did not work that well out here.

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So I literally carried a map
that I had to unroll

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and look at to figure out where I was in
some of the new developments.

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Nice.

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Yeah, it was fun. So when

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in your career of real estate,
when do you think

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or did you ever realize it
or when or what?

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Made it.

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You're like, oh, this is my calling.

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Pretty early on.

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Really? Yeah.

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Because, some of my first transactions

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when I first got my license,

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I was able to help people

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get something
they didn't think they were going to get.

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And I was able to share.

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It's my tagline
now: sharing the PK

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lake life,
because that's what I like to do.

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It's not that I like to sell houses.

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I like to share this lifestyle
with people.

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And so when I realized that I,
I could help them understand

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all the things they needed to know
to get through a transaction

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to buy a lake property,
I was essentially not doing a transaction.

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I was helping them have a lake lifestyle.

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Right?

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That made us both happy. Nice.

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I think I want to,

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loosely touch on price points.

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Okay.

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But not we'll, we'll do we'll come back,
do a podcast on some very unique things

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that are out it out there
at Lake at the at Possum Kingdom Lake.

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But what

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let's say we want to be

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in earshot of the beach
or on, on the beach.

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Those that range on those homes.

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What what are we

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looking at?

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You don't want to have the water
in your backyard or have a dock?

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You can get in for under

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maybe 350, 350,000.

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If you don't want a condo,
you can for sure get in under 300,000.

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Okay.

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You know, and that's not a bad way to go
because most of the condos either have

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a ramp
and courtesy slips with their property

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or at least near their property.

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So that's one good way to go.

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For people that are

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like considering a lake place
for the very first time

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and their budget says
we need to stay under 200,000,

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you can still get that,
but it's probably going to either

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be a condo
or have some sort of leased land

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connected to it,
which is not necessarily a bad thing.

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It's just a new thing for most people.

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You have to understand you're
buying improvements and leasing a lot.

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Right. Instead of owning the dirt.

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So okay.

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So there's that difference.

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And then there's
there's still a few places out

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here,
what we call fixer uppers or tear downs.

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Yeah.

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Not very many tear

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downs last really after Covid though,
because most of them got bought up

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and people did tear them down
and build a new place on the water.

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So homeowners out there,

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maybe
they're coming up on a decision to sell,

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I would imagine, add on the lake
like that.

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There's
a lot of really wonderful memories.

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That have come from living there
and that particular home.

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What are some,
how are some ways that you're helping

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somebody that's going through
the sale of their property out there?

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Because they're

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the value in their heart
is definitely it's

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going to be exponentially higher
than the value on the mortgage sheet.

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It is. Yeah. A lot of times it is.

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And and I've been there, done that.

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A few times.

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One of them actually
was one of my real estate mentors,

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one of the agents that I worked with
when I first started.

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Finally, reached the point

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to where she knew she was in her 80s
and she knew she didn't

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need to continue living by herself
with a dock on the water. And,

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decided
finally to put her house up for sale.

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And it was really

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traumatic for her

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because it's like you're you're giving up
a piece of yourself when you've lived

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somewhere 30 something years,
and especially when that somewhere

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includes lake memories

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and all the fun that was had at the lake.

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But yeah.

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And it took a little while
and a few price adjustments

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to get her property sold
to where she could be comfortable with it.

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I've also sold several properties where

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it was finally to the third generation,
and they just knew

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they weren't going to use the property
as much as previous generations had.

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And,

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you get sometimes a conflict

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with one sibling that's like,
we need to it's time to let this go.

499
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,200
And another sibling
that's crying in the corner

500
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,720
because they never want to let it go.

501
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,920
And then I've seen

502
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,920
times with, with families

503
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,520
where that third generation,
as a matter of fact, my neighbors,

504
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520
the third generation is like, no,

505
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520
we will never, ever sell this place, ever.

506
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000
And it's

507
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280
I don't think you could pay her
$5 million for her place.

508
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,560
She just. Yeah.

509
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,560
So, you know, a place like that.

510
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,840
So you've been, you've moved to PK

511
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,320
and you have invested yourself
in the community.

512
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,960
Any volunteering things or organizations
that you're part of locally or, or maybe

513
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,080
community events that you're like, ooh,
let's definitely put a spotlight on.

514
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840
Yeah, I am involved a lot.

515
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,720
I think it goes back to my public
relations heart.

516
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720
You know, I like to
I like to be involved with things and

517
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720
I like to help put things together.

518
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,920
We did, early in my career.

519
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,920
We did an event called PK West Fest

520
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,280
to where we focused on the west side
of the lake, and we had, a big all day

521
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,480
event where there were bands and food
and all sorts of sort of a fair

522
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,240
like atmosphere over at Park.

523
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,280
And that was super fun.

524
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,200
And we did that maybe three years
and take that for it kind of.

525
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,760
It just never
took off to get a stronghold.

526
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000
But I have also been involved a little bit

527
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,280
with our annual Possum Fest event,
which is, a chili cook off,

528
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,720
and it's going on its 38th or ninth year
now or something like that.

529
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,480
Yeah.

530
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,120
One year they had well, for

531
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120
many years
they had an event there that was,

532
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
sort of like the gunfights
that you see at,

533
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,760
Six Flags or different places like that
where they have

534
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,760
the cowboys and sheriffs
and the gunfights kind of a thing.

535
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,160
Yeah.

536
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160
But we had cowboys and floozies.

537
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,880
There was,

538
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,040
it was really a fundraising effect.

539
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,720
So as a floozy,
I got to go around selling tickets to people

540
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,240
so they could have their friends
arrested by the cowboys

541
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,560
and put into jail,
and somebody had to pay to get them out.

542
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440
So, so. That was super fun.

543
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,800
I served for six years as a director

544
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,840
on the board of directors for the Possum
Kingdom Water Supply Corporation,

545
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,200
and I learned a lot about that

546
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,400
because we're an unincorporated area.

547
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,080
So it's not like,
you know, you're in Flower Mound

548
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,000
and go down to City Hall
and pay your water bill,

549
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000
and everybody has water,
and it's no issue.

550
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,000
This is a nonprofit corporation
that's member owned,

551
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,040
and the board of directors
has to be responsible

552
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,240
for making sure that water
is properly managed and available.

553
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240
And so I learned a lot about water

554
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,720
in that six years on that board.

555
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520
I have been a member of the Possum

556
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Kingdom Women's Club since 2009,

557
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240
and I am serving currently in my

558
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720
third year as president

559
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,760
of that. Oh wow.

560
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Right.

561
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,280
You know, a lot of things.

562
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Other charities

563
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,440
in my research, I've discovered

564
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200
that you are a butterfly enthusiast.

565
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,680
I am I need a story.

566
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,920
Okay.

567
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,400
I don't,
I don't even know how it started.

568
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,160
What I recall is
when I was about 12 years old,

569
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,800
an aunt or a cousin
or somebody gave me a necklace

570
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,960
that had a butterfly on it,

571
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,400
and I don't know of a time
since then that I haven't had

572
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,440
a necklace or some piece of jewelry

573
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,440
with the butterfly on my body.

574
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,200
I don't know why I like them so much,
but I always have.

575
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,200
First off, I think they're beautiful.

576
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,880
Then, of course, you know,
when you get to the biological part of it

577
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,520
and and see the caterpillar turns into
a butterfly, it's just fabulous to me.

578
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,480
I think each of us
as humans can probably relate somehow

579
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,160
to going from the caterpillar
to the beautiful butterfly.

580
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Right.

581
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,760
I've, I've had multiple times in my life

582
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840
when it was a very true transition,

583
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,680
and I have a quote
on my bathroom mirror that

584
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,600
I think my daughter

585
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600
gave to me with a necklace,

586
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,520
that references that.

587
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600
And I look at it every day.

588
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Yeah, I, I
random fact that I get to share now,

589
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,440
but I hold on random weird facts.

590
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,040
And so when a caterpillar
makes its chrysalis,

591
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920
it completely dissolves. Yes.

592
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,480
And then and then is reborn
as this beautiful butterfly.

593
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,680
Then you have to wait.

594
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Your wings dry before you can fly.

595
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Yeah.

596
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,880
And this is that fascinating.

597
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,720
I remember, telling myself.

598
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,640
So, you know, they have atriums
and you can go see a butterfly exhibit

599
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120
and all that,
and those are really beautiful.

600
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,200
I was out in Abilene,
Texas, went to college

601
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240
out there, Hardin-Simmons campus.

602
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,240
And just out of the blue, one day,
I was walking between

603
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280
buildings, a bunch of oak trees, and,

604
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,280
I guess the butterflies
were passing through is that time of year.

605
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
And there were hundreds
of thousands of butterflies.

606
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,440
And I'm standing
in the middle of this butterfly.

607
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,920
Butterfly swarm,

608
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,080
22 year old kid.

609
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,040
I'm just caught in the moment.

610
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,720
And just between really bad tests
and long lectures.

611
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080
So I just stopped, and I was like,
I'm gonna live in this moment

612
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Two of my fraternity brothers
happened to have seen me,

613
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,240
and I'm just. I'm in a moment.

614
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,440
And, Oh, they never let me live it down.

615
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Well, and yeah,

616
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
they were. Yeah. They were. Yeah.

617
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,960
So fast forward about 20 years.

618
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,360
I walk into a children's
hospital in Dallas,

619
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,160
and they had this art tree

620
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,760
design in their foyer.

621
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,080
And then they had
these massive butterflies,

622
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,720
designs and or models all over.

623
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400
Absolutely beautiful manmade islands.

624
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Beautiful.
I took a picture to send it to them.

625
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:03,320
It was like vindication and and then,
out of my garden, I get every year,

626
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,120
I get a large variety of butterflies
come through.

627
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,040
And, it's so good for you.

628
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040
I think that's I love that, like,
I would have never.

629
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,520
I know, like,
I can look around in my office

630
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,160
and I can count all the butterflies
I see just on different things.

631
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,440
I have them in decorations.

632
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040
I have them on stationery,
I have them on jewelry.

633
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,240
My daughter and I have matching tattoos.

634
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,680
I just love them.

635
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Nice.

636
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,720
Well, we're almost out of time,
so we're going to come back

637
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:42,240
on, do some some more in-depth stuff,
on another podcast.

638
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,160
But I do have

639
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,080
I've kind of got some rapid fire questions
for you, and, we'll blow through those.

640
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,360
And this has helped me to figure out
odd things or unique things about you.

641
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,480
Okay. All right.

642
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Sunsets or sunrise

643
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,240
out at Possum Kingdom?
Sunsets. Boats or jet skis?

644
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,440
Boats.

645
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Fishing or floating?

646
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,400
Floating.

647
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Hanging out in the cove
or out in the open water.

648
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,080
In a cove.

649
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,960
All right.

650
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,280
Dock party or dinner out?

651
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,280
Oh. That's hard.

652
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Can I do both?

653
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,320
It's your lake. You know.

654
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,800
I have been known to do both.

655
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,560
You live there? You can do both.

656
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:27,760
Yeah.

657
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,160
Weekday PK or a holiday weekend PK?

658
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,320
Weekday PK. Always. Anytime.

659
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,160
All right.

660
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,880
Tuesday on the water is the best.

661
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Lake house or lake condo.

662
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,400
Lake house.

663
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Lake house. But they're both there.

664
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,720
Yeah, they're both there.
And they're both great.

665
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:51,800
That's for my family.

666
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,840
Lake house.

667
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
these are your rapid fire.

668
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,920
So, let's see if someone comes looking
to buy a house and then a mortgage.

669
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,760
I'll do that question to them
to help me tailor their there.

670
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Yeah, yeah.

671
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Big difference
between a condo and a house. So.

672
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,920
Okay. Morning.

673
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Coffee overlooking the water.

674
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,160
Or evening wine overlooking the water.

675
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Well, at 9:00 am,
I want my coffee overlooking the water.

676
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,640
And at 9 p.m.,
I might be out there with a glass of wine.

677
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Fair enough.

678
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,360
Fair enough.

679
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120
It really becomes a, you know, a full day.

680
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,280
Yeah.

681
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,520
I think I asked you this earlier when
we started: favorite PK restaurant?

682
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,720
You know, if I had to name

683
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,720
a favorite one for me,

684
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,280
it's probably Possum
Hollow on the west side.

685
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,480
It's like,
I just don't live as close to it

686
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,240
so I don't get to go to
it as often, but I love it.

687
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,000
It’s a special trip. Yeah. All right.

688
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Favorite PK tradition for you?

689
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,520
Oh, well.

690
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,040
Mardi Gras.

691
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Mardi Gras at the lake. All right.

692
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,320
Mardi Gras parade.

693
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,120
It's the best. Really? Yeah.

694
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,320
All right. Yeah,
but then the one. Anything.

695
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,640
And to the. Whole Mardi Gras.

696
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,520
I've been to Mobile, Alabama. Oh, yeah?

697
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Yeah.

698
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,040
Oh, New Orleans gets a lot of,

699
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,960
you know, screen time, if you will. Right.

700
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,640
But they didn't originate it.

701
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Yeah.

702
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,360
Originated in Mobile, Alabama. So,

703
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,320
great over there at PK.

704
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,000
We have a great PK

705
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,040
Mardi Gras parade.

706
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,840
And I've been in that every year
since I've been here.

707
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Yeah.

708
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,720
So it's probably going to be depending on,
what your favorite outdoor activity

709
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,320
is, but best month. Best month for PK?

710
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,680
Wow. Probably October.

711
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,800
Yeah.

712
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Yeah.

713
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,360
It's, I love the weather
that time of year out here.

714
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,520
That's when we have our Possum Fest.

715
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,120
That's when things kind of start
to slow down, and you can really relax.

716
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,400
I like a good fire pit.

717
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,040
Sit around and watch.

718
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,040
You can see stars forever.

719
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,680
It's nice.

720
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,000
All right, so,

721
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
you've helped a lot of people in the

722
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,640
in the Possum Kingdom area buy their homes,
sell their homes.

723
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,000
What is if someone's
looking to move to a Possum Kingdom

724
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:31,120
Lake area, or sell a home, that area.

725
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,480
How's the
what's best way they can reach you?

726
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,600
Oh, my cell phone.

727
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,600
You can pretty much reach me there
anytime, all the time.

728
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,440
(940) 636-3349.

729
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,760
And that can be a call or a text.

730
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,600
And I’m going to say, hey,
how can I help you?

731
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,320
And then it starts the journey.

732
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,320
Yeah. All right, Jo Lynn, thank you.

733
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Absolutely.

734
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,640
I've learned some stuff
about Possum Kingdom.

735
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,720
And now that I know there's trout there.

736
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,560
You ready?

737
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,480
I'm really excited about that.

738
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,320
So I'm really excited that. No kidding.

739
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,640
I've been looking at doing
trout fishing trips

740
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,240
and, there,
I mean, there's there's a big commitment.

741
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,880
I mean, they're far away,
you know? Yeah. Right.

742
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Yeah, I love that.

743
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,080
I love that very one thing.

744
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,400
For me personally, I'm like,
this could just.

745
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Be a weekend.

746
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,000
You could come and

747
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,080
and you could get some trout fishing done,
and I can show you around the.

748
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,920
Yeah, well, I will take
I will definitely put that on my calendar.

749
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,400
All right.

750
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,000
I'm going to put the links,
online, social media, all that stuff.

751
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,720
I'll link that up with this podcast.

752
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,640
Anybody looking for an awesome real estate
agent over in Possum

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Kingdom Lake area of Texas,
please reach out to Jo Lynn.

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And, if you need any guidance or a clear

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mortgage plan, to buy a home out there,
please give me a ring.

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My contact information will be down there
below.

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And I'm Nate Carver,
Your Favorite Mortgage Guy.

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Jo Lynn, thank you so much
for being on the podcast.

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Thank you. I have enjoyed it.